tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post111333288756808438..comments2023-10-17T12:44:50.593+01:00Comments on Synaxis: Addressing the clergyMichaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04972938279831428593noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1113777822031999152005-04-17T23:43:00.000+01:002005-04-17T23:43:00.000+01:00Additionally, besides the Russian use of 'Vladyka'...Additionally, besides the Russian use of 'Vladyka' and 'Batushka' - Antiochian (Syrian) bishops are referred to as Saidna ('our Master'), and their priests as Abouna ('our Father') and Khouri (Priest). The Greeks have a whole range of extra titles for various positions that derive from the Imperial Byzantine court (protosyngelos, economos, archon, protopsaltis, evangelos, apostolos, etc.) - as Father Aristibule Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00393651388803251279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1113495547802289392005-04-14T17:19:00.000+01:002005-04-14T17:19:00.000+01:00He was.P.S. Much like the differing attitude towar...He was.<BR/><BR/>P.S. Much like the differing attitude towards the 1979 US Prayer Book, another shock to somebody coming from stateside Catholicism is to find the <I>Novus Ordo</I> being held up as a party badge of orthodoxy as it often is by English ACs! Relative to the not-missed ASB, which was in use in most places when I was in England, maybe it was!Ecgberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06354592772973677609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1113486527004122332005-04-14T14:48:00.000+01:002005-04-14T14:48:00.000+01:00Fr. Laister certainly sounds very interesting - a ...Fr. Laister certainly sounds very interesting - a good thing indeed.Jacob Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435082163759225318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1113485302054009262005-04-14T14:28:00.000+01:002005-04-14T14:28:00.000+01:00You're welcome!And thanks for the reminder: in the...You're welcome!<BR/><BR/>And thanks for the reminder: in the States one often finds a more conservative brand of Anglo-Catholicism than in England. Certainly in the cases of liturgy and customs! It's funny because most Americans think the English are always more formal. I do remember 'Fr Firstname' used a lot in England but the AC circle I know and love is old-fashioned, one of the first priests Ecgberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06354592772973677609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1113468982386396312005-04-14T09:56:00.000+01:002005-04-14T09:56:00.000+01:00It does seem the case that Fr. Surname is only use...It does seem the case that Fr. Surname is only used in very stuffy, old-fashioned Anglican circles this side of the pond nowadays. Or, rather, if that is the general rule.<BR/><BR/>In my home parish, we have Fr. Firstname (the parish priest), and Fr. Surname. Fr. Surname is known as such, it seems, because of his octogenarian nature, more than the fact that priests should be addressed by their Jacob Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435082163759225318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1113461171099024652005-04-14T07:46:00.000+01:002005-04-14T07:46:00.000+01:00Thank you for that extensive response, Serge. Tha...Thank you for that extensive response, Serge. That's a great help.<BR/><BR/>In my online reading and conversations with people, I must admit that, in Anglican circles, I have only ever read "Fr surname" from Americans. I have ocasionally, but very rarely, come across that on this side of the pond, but it always sounds a little out of the ordinary, because it isn't what I'm accustomed to hearingMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972938279831428593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1113439940447393672005-04-14T01:52:00.000+01:002005-04-14T01:52:00.000+01:00Also, in writing:His Beatitude Firstname, Patriarc...Also, in writing:<BR/><BR/>His Beatitude Firstname, Patriarch of SeeEcgberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06354592772973677609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1113439759255740612005-04-14T01:49:00.000+01:002005-04-14T01:49:00.000+01:00In the Byzantine Rite the main difference from the...In the Byzantine Rite the main difference from the Roman and Anglican usages is that clergy are addressed by title and first name. (Only some religious orders, namely monks, do that in the Roman Rite AFAIK.)<BR/><BR/>a. Bishop Firstname, Father Firstname, Father Deacon Firstname (not 'Title Lastname', the usual Roman and Anglican usage, though you sometimes read and hear Orthodox use that).<BR/><Ecgberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06354592772973677609noreply@blogger.com