tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post111004771139987596..comments2023-10-17T12:44:50.593+01:00Comments on Synaxis: The Celtic Orthodox ChurchMichaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04972938279831428593noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110751128726724932005-03-13T21:58:00.000+00:002005-03-13T21:58:00.000+00:00Thanks, Aristibule!Thanks, Aristibule!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110732572734451552005-03-13T16:49:00.000+00:002005-03-13T16:49:00.000+00:00Well, growing pains, you know....I often go to the...Well, growing pains, you know....<BR/><BR/>I often go to the Greek Orthodox church too. Everyone there is quite friendly, even those who don't speak English, and fortunately I studied a bit of Greek in college so I can understand what's going on in the liturgy, anyhow. That's where I go to church when I can't afford the petrol to get to my favorite Russian church. :)<BR/><BR/>You all are a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110731217499290232005-03-13T16:26:00.000+00:002005-03-13T16:26:00.000+00:00Yes, the Northeast is generally still growing with...Yes, the Northeast is generally still growing with immigration from the East. Usually a mission there will have to be Byzantine, and most likely with some Arabic or Slavic languages, as most outreach is still towards those from the 90's Russian immigration, and the present 'escape' from Israel/PA and Lebanon. I think that WR/ER mission you mentioned had more issues going on (I know the story), Father Aristibule Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00393651388803251279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110722368080011762005-03-13T13:59:00.000+00:002005-03-13T13:59:00.000+00:00Aristibule, thanks for that link! I find all this...Aristibule, thanks for that link! I find all this utterly fascinating!<BR/><BR/>I once attended an [Antiochian] parish in the northeastern region of the US where they started out with Western Rite (pastor was a former protestant) and happened to have a Lutheran book for Vespers, but used the English (Knott) Missal (with the revisions with which Michael is already familiar). They had some Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110701426263974472005-03-13T08:10:00.000+00:002005-03-13T08:10:00.000+00:00The 'BE-COC' used a 'Neo-Gallican rite' in the pas...The 'BE-COC' used a 'Neo-Gallican rite' in the past. When the greater part joined the Copts, and switched to Greek St. James liturgy, Coptic hours (but a Western calendar), the group that remained separate from the Copts also switched to the same Eastern use! They also dress as Byzantine clergy (rather than as Celtic or English clergy used to, or modern Western Orthodox clergy, or even Coptic Father Aristibule Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00393651388803251279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110688984778108602005-03-13T04:43:00.000+00:002005-03-13T04:43:00.000+00:00Many thanks, everyone.Daniyel, the particular chur...Many thanks, everyone.<BR/><BR/>Daniyel, the particular church in question is the one linked to in the title of this post, although it seems your question has sparked off further discussion, which I am rather ionterested by.<BR/><BR/>My spirituality lies very much in the Sarum tradition, and so I am interested to learn about the availability of information about Celtic traditions.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972938279831428593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110678343475878272005-03-13T01:45:00.000+00:002005-03-13T01:45:00.000+00:00I believe the way the Orthodox see things is that ...I believe the way the Orthodox see things is that Patrick, Columcille and other "Celtic" saints were actually Orthodox saints, because they were Christians in the undivided Church (before the schism of 1054). There was, indeed, another set of =customs= in use in the churches of Britain, Scotland, Ireland and the various Isles before the arrival of Augustine of Canterbury, Hilda and Hugh. Those Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110676791492819952005-03-13T01:19:00.000+00:002005-03-13T01:19:00.000+00:00I'm sorry, but do you mean the church of Columcill...I'm sorry, but do you mean the church of Columcille and Patrick or someone else? I know there was a celtic church during the middle ages that sent out a bunch of missionaries and saved culture during that dark time but I don't know if we are talking about the same church. Fact is, information and source material from any of that stuff is really scanty. I've been trying to research that for quite Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677991315629546861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110143669752851742005-03-06T21:14:00.000+00:002005-03-06T21:14:00.000+00:00The Greek Orthodox Archbishop Gregorios there for ...The Greek Orthodox Archbishop Gregorios there for Thyateira and Great Britain had put out a warning about that group. <br /><br />They are indeed not in communion with any Orthodox Church. Their origins lay with an odd occurrence in the mid-19th c. where the Jacobites ordained a French priest as 'Mar Julius of Iona'. His group barely survived, and a portion of it is now with the Copts (ie, Father Aristibule Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00393651388803251279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110063126885971642005-03-05T22:52:00.000+00:002005-03-05T22:52:00.000+00:00Well, look at it this way: there are so many who p...Well, look at it this way: there are so many who pretend to be Orthodox that they're living proof that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.<br /><br />Me, I'd rather have the real thing. :)<br /><br />Leetle M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110052585027512002005-03-05T19:56:00.000+00:002005-03-05T19:56:00.000+00:00It appears that you are correct, Leetle M. I have...It appears that you are correct, Leetle M. I have had it confirmed that the monastery is, in fact, the garage of the bishop, and their prized possession is the toenail of S. Anne.<br /><br />Well it all brought a smile to my face, if nothing else.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972938279831428593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11100766.post-1110048514818001482005-03-05T18:48:00.000+00:002005-03-05T18:48:00.000+00:00From reading around on the Internet, I am sorry to...From reading around on the Internet, I am sorry to say I feel fairly sure that "Celtic Orthodox" is probably not very reliably Orthodox, and probably not terribly Celtic either.<br /><br />However, in the Orthodox Church, it is perfectly acceptable to revere and imitate the Celtic saints who =were= Orthodox, such as Patrick, Columba, Aidan, David, Alban, to name just a few.<br /><br />Leetle M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com